Tomsick, John

Birth Name Tomsick, John
Gramps ID I0286
Gender male

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth 1880 Slovenia  
 
Immigration 1898 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA  
 

Families

    Family of Tomsick, John and Tomsic, Mary [F0092]
Married Wife Tomsic, Mary [I0152]
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage estimated 1910 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA  
 
  Narrative

Frances (Auntie Fanny) and Mary, sisters ... per Bill Azman Jr. 03/26/2012 correspondence: Fanny Tomsic-Hocevar and grandpa Tomsic were brother and sister. The other sister of grandpa Tomsic, JENNIE TOMSIC ZALAR, lived in Colorado...and Uncle Bill (WmF Tomsic) went there on a motorcycle...an Indian motorcycle!

MARY TOMSIC married JOHN TOMSICK ...spelled with a K....that was Kenny's mom and dad...he was a change of life baby....had a detective-cop brother who had a bar on the west side..his name was Adolph...there is a sister still living also... Kenny was mom's first cousin and is our second cousin and his real name was 'Clarence.' The other children of this marriage were: Josephine, John, Adolf and Florence.

Mary stayed in Cleveland area, it seems, and was married to John Tomsick. See Anton Tomsic death record. Jennie Tomsic ZALAR was the sister in Colorado. (Press announcements for Anton's death misspell the Zalar name.)

Mary and John lived on Luther Avenue off East 55th in early years.

  Narrative

1930 Census - Mary Tomsic-Tomsick Family INFO

Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Yugoslavia
Race: White
Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio; 5211 Luther Ave
Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1902
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Tomsick
Father's Birthplace: Yugoslavia
Mother's Birthplace: Yugoslavia
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Tomsick 50 b. 1880 Immigrated 1898
Mary Tomsick 45 b. 1885 Immigrated 1902
Josephine Tomsick 14 (1916)
John Tomsick 12 (1918)
Adolph Tomsick 9 (1921)
Florence Tomsick 8 (1922)
Clarence (aka Kenny) Tomsick 3 (1927)
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Husband Name: John Tomsick
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Yugoslavia
Race: White
Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
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Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1898
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Tomsick
Father's Birthplace: Yugoslavia
Mother's Birthplace: Yugoslavia
Neighbors: View others on page

Occupation: Brass Polisher

Household Members:
Name Age
John Tomsick 50 b. 1880 Immigrated 1898
Mary Tomsick 45 b. 1885 Immigrated 1902
Josephine Tomsick 14 (1916)
John Tomsick 12 (1918)
Adolph Tomsick 9 (1921)
Florence Tomsick 8 (1922)
Clarence (aka Kenny) Tomsick 3 (1927)
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JOSEPHINE
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Name: Josephine Tomsick
Marriage Date: 25 Nov 1939
Form Type: Marriage
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1915
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary Tomsick
Spouse's Name: Gordon C Smith
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse's Birth Year: abt 1911
Spouse Father's Name: John
Spouse Mother's Name: Mary Lutz

ADOLF
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Name: Adolph A Tomsick
Marriage Date: 21 May 1941
Form Type: Marriage
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1920
Father's Name: John Tomsick
Mother's Name: Mary Tomsick
Spouse's Name: Lucille Pecek
Spouse's Age: 19
Spouse's Birth Year: abt 1922
Spouse Father's Name: John Tomsick
Spouse Mother's Name: Mary Roseman

CLARENCE - aka Kenny
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Marriage record 1956/1957
Christine Talas

Florence
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Name: Florence Tomsick
Marriage Date: 8 Nov 1941
Form Type: Marriage
Age: 19
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1922
Father's Name: John Tomsick
Mother's Name: Mary Tomsick
Spouse's Name: Frank J Pirnat
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Birth Year: abt 1921
Spouse Father's Name: John Tomsick
Spouse Mother's Name: Frances Odlzrek

  Narrative

CONFIRMED!! Key data matches...but further checking in process. Based on family input that one son is Adolf.

  Children
  1. Tomsick, Josephine [I0289]
  2. Tomsick, John [I0290]
  3. Tomsick, Adolf [I0288]
  4. Tomsick, Florence [I0291]
  5. Tomsick, Clarence [I0287]

Media

Narrative

Per son Kenny (Clarence) Tomsick, April 2014, his father's name was originally spelled "Tomsic" like the rest of the family. But when he and Mary Tomsic, who met in Colorado, set up a tavern there, the local records put him down as Tomsick. It seems to have stuck.

as conveyed from Kenny in email from Bill Azman:

... John Tomsic, Kenny's father worked in a silver mine for 2 years, then had a chance to buy a tavern in Leadville, Co. He did, and hired grandpa's sister Mary as a barmaid. They both ended up in Leadville from Ellis Island....perhaps got on the wrong train. That's how they met. He said his father was from Hinje..in the old country....same place as Pa [Anton] Tomsic! Kenny also said that his father spelled the name as we have it, Tomsic. But, when he was signing up for the tavern, the irishmen spelled it as it sounded....thus Tomsick.

Pedigree

    1. Tomsick, John
      1. Tomsic, Mary [I0152]
        1. Tomsick, Josephine [I0289]
        2. Tomsick, John [I0290]
        3. Tomsick, Adolf [I0288]
        4. Tomsick, Florence [I0291]
        5. Tomsick, Clarence [I0287]