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Alysan Azman



      Sex: F

Individual Information
          Birth: 13 Mar 1943 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
         Father: William Azman
         Mother: Alice Tomsic

Spouses and Children
1. *Darl E Schiets
       Marriage: est 1965 - Oak Lane, Fremont, Ohio, USA
       Children:
                1. Darrell Schiets


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Anna Azman

      Sex: F

Individual Information
          Birth: 20 Aug 1907 - Lorain, Ohio, USA
    Christening: 
          Death: 23 Sep 1995 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
         Father: Frank Azman
         Mother: Anna Janzelj

Spouses and Children
1. *Lawrence Petkovsek
       Marriage: 
       Children:
                1. Rosalee Petkovsek
                2. Lawrence Petkovsek Jr

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General:
Married name: Ann A Petkovsek - Married Lawerence Petkovsek

OTHER re: Frank Azman girls, early 1900s - Frances Stupica and Teta Bricel. [first name?] That's why the first born son was named Lojze....not Frank. Anna Azman married Lawrence Petkovsek, and Frances Azman married twice....divorcing the first husband..(!) and Married Arthur Orgel....I will get you the dates shortly. They had 2 children, Artie, who was accidently run over by a tractor at age 12, and subsequently died...(his liver was ruptured, and the technology for re attaching was not available at that time) and Diane...who is around 70 or 72 yrs old. Anna had 2children...Larry...and Rosalee. The Petkovsek family was also somehow related to the Hlad family...thru Uncle Dutch. I still see Joyce Hlad . Did you ever go skating at the rollerdrome...with Joyce and Marsha and Kathy and Kevin.

picture Edward Azman

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 10 Aug 1916 - Detroit, Michigan, USA
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          Death: 19 Apr 2007 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
         Father: Frank Azman
         Mother: Anna Janzelj


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Frances Azman

      Sex: F

Individual Information
          Birth: 22 Oct 1908 - Lorain, Ohio, USA
    Christening: 
          Death: 29 Sep 1998 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Events

• Residence: 1940.


Parents
         Father: Frank Azman
         Mother: Anna Janzelj

Spouses and Children
1. *Arthur H. Orgel Sr
       Marriage: est 1939
       Children:
                1. Arthur Orgel Jr
                2. Diane Orgel

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General:
1940 CENSUS - Orgel-Azman Household ---------------------------------------------- name: Frances Orgel titles & terms: event: Census event year: 1940 event place: Ward 32, Cleveland City, Cleveland City, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States gender: Female age: 31 marital status: Married race (original): race (standardized): White relationship to head of household (original): relationship to head of household (standardized): Wife birthplace: Ohio estimated birth year: 1909 residence in 1935: Same Place enumeration district number: 92-829 family number: 42 sheet number and letter: 2B line number: 71 nara publication number: T627 nara roll number: 3236 digital folder number: 005460765 image number: 00232 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Arthur H Orgel M 41 Ohio wife Frances Orgel F 31 Ohio son Arthur Orgel M 3 Ohio

From Bill Azman 01/07/2013 - Frances Azman married twice....divorcing the first husband..(!) and Married Arthur Orgel....I will get you the dates shortly. They had 2 children, Artie, who was accidently run over by a tractor at age 12, and subsequently died...(his liver was ruptured, and the technology for re attaching was not available at that time) and Diane...who is around 70 or 72 yrs old.

Azman Family Notes from Bill Azman 0107/2013; re: Detroit move, Model T and more: I don't know if I ever told you, Grandpa Azman met Grandma Azman in Lorain Ohio, where he worked at Lorain Sheet and Tube as an ironworker. He had 4 children there, and when Ford put an ad in the paper that he was hiring at $5 a day, Grandpa went to Detroit, had an interview with Henry Ford and was hired.

The family moved to Henry St., in Detroit, and he worked for Ford Motor Co installing windshield brackets, on the model T's. He had been making $5 a week! Judging from their birthdays, he had to have moved between 1913, my dad's birth year, because Uncle Ed was born in 1915, in Detroit.

When he was laid off, maybe because of WWI (?) his father in law who was living with him, told him because he had 5 kids, he needed a job that didn't ever get laid off, so they decided to buy a store, since the father in law had owned and operateda Gostilna in Ig....so grandpa went to cleveland, bought the store and opened in 1917, on about 62nd and St Clair....in 1919, he was able to buy the current building which had been a bar...on E. 65th. Uncle Frank was born in 1919, and he told me when he was a boy, maybe 9 or 10 years old, that grandpa would give him the $10 a week to pay the mortgage on the building, and he would deliver a beef roast, (10 lbs) to Tino's bar on the way and get the $1.00 and bring it back to the store...he said that Tino would give him 5 cents tip and he would use it to go to the movies...!!

The store bought a 1926 Model T for $1000. and my dad rebuilt the engine using would you believe Oldsmobile aluminum pistons... the compression ratio was 5 to 1 ! Steve and I ended up with the car and I drove it once. It had no brakes to speak of...just a band that was tightened around the drive shaft...when you hit the brake pedal....took forever to stop.
Marriage Notes (Arthur H. Orgel Sr)
They had 2 children, Artie, who was accidently run over by a tractor at age 12, and subsequently died...(his liver was ruptured, and the technology for re attaching was not available at that time) and Diane...who is around 70 or 72 yrs old.

picture Frank Azman

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 6 Sep 1884 - Podbreze, Podbreze, Slovenia
    Christening: 
          Death: 12 Jun 1956 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Events

• Residence: 1914.


Spouses and Children
1. *Anna Janzelj
       Marriage: 17 Sep 1906 - Lorain, Ohio, USA
       Children:
                1. Anna Azman
                2. Frances Azman
                3. Louis Azman
                4. William Azman
                5. Edward Azman
                6. Frank Azman

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Marriage Notes (Anna Janzelj)
First off,grandma and grandpa were married in Lorain, Ohio on September 17, 1906 at St. Cyril and Methodius church, I do have a copy of the letter from the pastor verifying this. The interesting thing the witnesses were Peter Janzelj and Frances Janzelj.
AZMAN Family Notes: From Rosalee Wurtz to Alysan Azman 01/03/2013:

OK, because you are younger you would not know these things. First off,grandma and grandpa [Azman] were married in Lorain, Ohio on September 17, 1906 at St. Cyril and Methodius church, I do have a copy of the letter from the pastor verifying this. The interesting thing the witnesses were Peter Janzelj and Frances Janzelj. Who in the world were they?????

Grandma constantly sent packages and money to our dear cousins and their family. Maria, Zvonka, Matevs, and Dora were children being raised by their grandmother, aunts, etc. Their grandmother was the sister of grandpa. In pictures you can see the strong resemblance to grandpa, her name was Franciska. When we visited Slovenia on our last trip I learned so much about this time of their lives. No men left, just grandma and aunts and children. Matevs had letters from grandma that he had saved. She virtually kept them alive, remember they were relatives of Grandpa.

Diane and I sorted some of my records out, I am still missing some, don't know where I put them. She wrote a very nice tree ( lacking in lots of info,but understandable.)

It's always interesting to pair family lore with facts. Never know which to believe. Grandpa Janzelj (Janez) was the accordian player and I guess he was pretty mean to the kids. He passed away in 1924 and is bured at Calvary Cemetery. My brother pursued his uncles and was able to get money from everybody to get a head stone for Janez Janzelj. His wife Anna died at 44 leaving Grandma (14) Frances (11) and Jennie (9). Great Grandma had 8 pregnancies the three girls being the only ones to survive. I'll see if I can get a copy of the sheet Diane did and you can see how pathetic Great Grandma's life must have been. None of the first 3 lived beyond 6 years, the rest died very early. Who knows if there were any miscarriages in between.. The dates of the children are: Ursula Oct 19, 1881- died Feb 23,1882 Johann Jan 31, 1883- died Feb 7, 1883 Jakob JUL 23, 1884 - died Oct 14, 1884 Maria Aug 16, 1887- died Feb 3, 1894 Johann Feb 6, 1895 - died Aug 15, 1895 Grandma (1885, Frances (1890) Johanna (Jennie) 1892 With all of the children dying so young itsn't it amazing that the three that remained all made it into their 80's.

OK, that will get you some info, I would like to know how and where Greg researched his information.

Sounds like fun with your grand daughter. Enjoy they grow up so fast.

Ro Great Grandma died March 20, 1899. I'm sure the poor thing was just worn out!!!!!

picture Frank Azman

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 2 Nov 1919 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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          Death: 21 Jan 2004 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
         Father: Frank Azman
         Mother: Anna Janzelj


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Louis Azman

      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 12 Jun 1911 - Lorain, Ohio, USA
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          Death: 2 Sep 1993 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
         Father: Frank Azman
         Mother: Anna Janzelj


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Steven Azman



      Sex: M

Individual Information
          Birth: 21 Feb 1949 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
         Father: William Azman
         Mother: Alice Tomsic


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William Azman



      Sex: M
AKA: Bill Azman
Individual Information
          Birth: 6 Jun 1947 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Events

• Residence: 2000.


Parents
         Father: William Azman
         Mother: Alice Tomsic

Spouses and Children
1. *Marie J Skorich
       Marriage: 7 Aug 1982
       Children:
                1. Angie Skorich

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Rice and Blood Sausage Story per Bill Azman Jr. March 9, 2014

I have made these things since about 1977, and have wondered about a few things. First of all, to answer your question, rice sausages were distinctly different from blood sausages, when our grandparents made them on the farm. The hogs were raised and fed and fattened up over the summer and fall, and then when it got cold enough to act like a large cooler, they would kill the hogs and start butchering them. They wasted nothing.

The rice sausage we made were originally made from pork hearts, snouts, and lungs, as the main meats, with added cracklings, onions, and rice....the seasoning are salt, pepper, cloves, cinnamon, and leaf marjoram. The blood sausages were made with the jowls, and tongues, most of the other head meats...and livers. To this, after cooking and grinding and mixing and seasoning, they would add the blood. The intestines of the pig were used as well as the large intestines....the blood sausages were usually like small zelodec. Mother told me when grandpa Tomsic made his, he would hope that when baked in the oven, the blood sausage when sliced, would stay together, like well packed in the casing.

An interesting side note, in the 60's, the USDA banned the sale of lungs. We tried to still get them, but the inspectors counted the animals going in, and counted the lungs coming out. The Azmans stopped making rice sausages then, and did not make them until I returned in 1976 from Fremont, where I worked at Schiets Motors Motorcycle shop.

I wanted to start making rice sausages, and the recipe from Azman's was gone....no one could find it, anywhere. So Mother sat down and made a recipe from what she remembered...mostly from the Tomsic recipe. Grandma Azman had always used the "ana pist" method....that is, a fistful of this and a fistful of that .....and Mother made it into real, measurable recipe. And, YOUR Mother, was one of the critics we took the first batch to.....a 5lb homemade batch made on Maplecliff, made in bulk, and Your Mother helped tell My Mother what to increase and make it the best.

After taking the mix to another rice sausage fanatic, we approved the mix and made the first batch...Isn't it something how our families are tied together.....your Mother helped us make rice sausages for over 20 years. She would take no pay, and I would offer her food, which she would take occasionally....BUT, she always made a sandwich of zemle, and cverke. The question I have about making these things is why they used rice.....I really don't know if Slovenia makes rice....I know some of the sausages are made with barley groats....I always figured that grains like barley would be more prevalent in Slovenia , than rice.


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