Florence F Tomsic
Sex: F
AKA: Plucky
Individual Information
Birth: 19 Apr 1921 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Death: 20 Jun 1993 - Painesville, Lake, USA
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Frances Tomsic
Sex: F
AKA: Fanny Tomsic
Individual Information
Birth: est 1894 - Zuzemberk, Hinje, Vrh, Zuzemberk, Slovenia
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Death: 1905 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
Father: Jožef Tomšic 8
Mother: Marjeta Škufca 8
Spouses and Children
1. *Frank Hocevar Sr 26
Marriage: 5 Apr 1913 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
Children:
1. Frank Hocevar Jr
2. Francis Hocevar
3. Edward Hocevar
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Fanny (Francis) and Mary, sisters, more... per Bill Azman Jr. 03/26/2012 correspondence: Fanny Hocevar and grandpa Tomsic were brother and sister, the other sister of grandpa Tomsic, MARY lived in Cleveland off East 55th and JENNIE lived in Colorado...and uncle Bill went there on a motorcycle...an Indian motorcycle! And she married another Tomsick...spelled with a K....that was Kenny's mom and dad...he was a change of life baby....had a detective-cop brother who had a bar on the west side..his name was Adolph...there is a sister still living also... Kenny was mom's first cousin and is our second cousin.Marriage Notes (Frank Hocevar Sr)
CORRECTION: Mary stayed in Cleveland area, it seems. See Anton Tomsic death record. Jennie Tomsic Zaler (Zeller?) was the sister in Colorado.
Frances Tomsic-Hocevar Death - Another death notice for a woman in Willoughby OH. Not sure this is the one.
Bridesmaid, 2nd from Left, is Frances Vidrich who married Jacob/Jack Tomsic in 1925.
Tomsic_Frances_Fanny__Hocevar or, Fanny Tomsic Hocevar
MARRIAGE RECORD ------------------------------------- Name: Fannie Tomsik Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1913 Form Type: Marriage Age: 20 Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1893 Birth Place: Austria Father's Name: Joseph Mother's name: Maggie Skupa Spouse's Name: Frank Hocevar Spouse's Age: 24 Spouse's Birth Year: abt 1889 Spouse Father's Name: Joseph Spouse Mother's Name: Fannie Mesojedic
1920 CENSUS - THE RIGHT ONE ------------------------------------------- Fannie Hocevar [Fannke Rocever in Census - wrong] Age: 27 Birth Year: abt 1893 Birthplace: Lieburg Austria [Lilburg S] Home in 1920: Cleveland Ward 23, Cuyahoga, Ohio Race: White Gender: Female Immigration Year: 1906 Relation to Head of House: Wife Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Frank Hocevar Father's Birthplace: Lieburg Austria [Lilburg] Mother's Birthplace: Lieburg Austria [Lilburg Au] Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frank Hocevar 30 Fannie Hocevar 27 Frank Hocevar 6 Fannie Hocevar 5
1940 CENSUS - PERFECT - Note son Frank in 1920 (assume Bill Azman's Friend) ----------------------------
Name: Frances Hocevar Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Gender: Female Race: White Birthplace: Yugoslavia Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Wife Home in 1940: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio Map of Home in 1940: View Map Street: East 53 Street Inferred Residence in 1935: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio Residence in 1935: Same House Citizenship: Naturalized Sheet Number: 11B Occupation: Lodginghouse Keeper Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade Weeks Worked in 1939: 0 Income: 0 Income Other Sources: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frank Hocevar 49 Frances Hocevar 47 Frances Hocevar 25 Edward Hocevar 17 Steve Desput 47 Frank Hegler 45 Frank Ziberman 47 John Lipovec 60 John Bodner 60 John Bonchina 53
Bill PecjakJr Note re: Edward Hocevar - Mar 2014 ------------------------------------------------ I just looked at the Tomsic line, and forgot Eddie Hocevar. He was a good guy. He was a meat cutter too, like Uncle Tony. He worked at Cimperman's market which was on E.60th st and was Azman's competition, as well as Malenshek's market which was just down the street from cimpermans. Malenshek used to call himself the neighborhood klobase king, and Cimperman's was just average sausages....nothing to brag about.
MORE on Hocevars from Bill Azman Jr. - Mar 2014 ----------------------------------------------- Anton Tomsic, our grandfather's sister is Aunt Fannie(Frances), who married Frank Hocevar. I think he died early because I don't remember seeing him on the farm on Rt. 166 off of Rt. 534 in Harpersfield. Their son Frank Hocevar Jr. (lets call him) was my father's best friend, and my mother's cousin. The whole Azman-Tomsic thing started when grandpa Tomsic wanted to sell his Mervar button box, and Frank Jr bought it. Well as it was, my Dad went with him to Tomsic's house with Frank....and that's when my mother saw him, but didn't meet him...I think Ma said she was 12 at that time. However, Ma told me that Frank Jr told her he had a tall, dark-haired handsome gentleman for her to meet, (!!!) and introduced her to his best friend Bill Azman.
My father told me that Mr Tomsic knew Mr Azman thru the meat business and Mr Tomsic would borrow Mr Azman's big cars when ever they needed one for baptisms or communions or somethings like that, when they had the business on E . 185th st. If I have it right, Frances Hocevar, Frank Jr's sister, married Jimmy Jerina. One of Jimmy and Fran's kids now own the farm on Rt. 166. I think they had 3 or 4 kids.
from Alysan Azman - Mar 2014 ----------------------------- I DO think that Kenny & Clarence are the same person, Just tried an obit search in the PD, but no luck. His wife's name was Anne, and they have a son, Joey Tomsick, who has a polka band, the Joey Tomsick Orchestra. I am thinking Kenny died last year; his wife not long before. Not sure about living in Cleveland - I know mom had some relatives in Pennsylvania. The 'Adolph' rings a hell....not sure about 'Florence'.
Joey Tomsick Orchestra has a website - I clicked on the FB link, but nothing there. And the Tomsicks were friends of the Hocevars.
Ruthie, I am guessing, was Ruthie Hocevar, married to Ed Hocevar.
Death Certificate ----------------- Frances Hocevar Birth Date: 1893 Gender: Female Race: White Residence Place: Ashtabula, Ohio, United States Death Date: 7 Aug 1979 Hospital of Death: Home Death Place: Ashtabula, Ohio, USA Certificate: 061121 Age at Death: 86 Certifier: Coroner Autopsy: Yes, used for certification Social Security Number: 298-42-0285 Marital Status: Widowed
Hocevar_Frank - WW2Card - Family info
Frank Hocevar Birth Date: 8 Feb 1889 Birth Place: Austria Residence: Cleveland, Ohio Race: White Age: 53
Other info on card (see image too) 1441 East 53rd Street Cleveland
Wife: Frances
Employed at Royal Brass 43rd Street, Cleveland
see WW1 Card too: Lived at 1466 East 43rd at the time with wife and children
Frank Tomsic
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 30 Nov 1910 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Death: 9 Jun 1967
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• Social Security Number: 272-07-7897.
Parents
Father: Anton Tomsic 8,33,41,42
Mother: Anna Lavric 7,41,42,43
Spouses and Children
1. *Jean Bernard
Marriage: 1948
Children:
1. Thomas Tomsic
2. Gary Tomsic
Notes
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Uncle Frank died of lung cancer when he was 54 or 55...being a heavy smoker. And likely alcoholic. (NO not klobase)..1966 maybe...his sons are Gary and of course Tommy (who was named after a girlfriend he had and lost in California!) was killed in Vietnam by a mortar or a missile strike.Marriage Notes (Jean Bernard)
From GW Tomsic cousin Alysan - 2010: Tom and Gary's mom died fairly recently, I believe...her name was Jean.
Uncle Frank Tomsic died years ago, fairly young, from lung cancer, I believe. I remember going to the funeral home to see Tommy...he died in Viet Nam. I haven't seen Gary in a long, long time.
From Gary Tomsic - March 4, 2015 via email - My father was born Nov 30, 1910 and he died June 9, 1967. My mother's name is Jean and she was born in Cleveland on March 27, 1926 and died Aug 24, 2007. They were married in 1948.
I know he (my dad) spent time in the navy before the war and I think he lived in California for a while, but overall he smoked and he drank too much and he died at 56. We [Tom and Gary] were both still teenagers.
per Gary T - May 1, 2015 - My mother's maiden name was Bernard. Her family was from Slovenia too. She was actually born Virginia Helen Bernard but she preferred to be called Jean. There's very few documents in which she's referred to as Virginia. My wife's maiden name is James and she was born May 23, 1951. We're almost the same age. Her mother is from Cleveland but was living and working in Wash. D.C. when she was born and they moved back here when she was still a baby. So she was raised here in the Cleveland area too.
When I was small we lived in Cleveland but in three different places in the same neighborhood off of St. Clair Ave. The first five years was on E. 67th St. north of St. Clair (about two blocks away from Azman's store). We then moved to a street off of E. 79th called Kosciuszko (try spelling that for your teacher when your're in the 1st grade). We lived there 10 Years then moved about 3 streets over to Bellevue Ave. where we stayed for about 3 years and that was it. By then I was about 18 and the family all went our separate ways. In only about 2 years my father died, my brother went into the army, my mother moved to the west side and I went off on my own.
As far as schools, they were all in that same neighborhood. Elementary school was only one street over from Kosciuszko. It was called Sowinski Elementary (that was the name of the street it was on). Middle school was called Addison Jr. high and the high school was East High in Cleveland.
Per Gary Tomsic, via email - March 4-31, 2015 - My birthday is Jan 4, 1951. My wife's name is Debra and we been married since 1978. I never left this area. I lived and worked in and around Cleveland my whole life. My kids are all grown now and they all live in the area.
My wife's from around the area too. She was actually born in Wash D.C. but raised in the Cleveland area. My sons are Alan 42, Mark 40, Jeffrey 32, and Gregg 30 (yes two G's). Only one grandson Nick. He's 10 now and he's Mark's son. Jeff was just married last year.
In Feb 2015 email - time since we last saw each other - 60 years since I was age 4. I'm doing fine. I retired a couple years ago after 20 years at the post office as a mailman. My four boys are all grown now and doing fine. One just got married this summer. I live in Willowick OH which is just east of the city. Been here about 30 yrs.
Gary Tomsic
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 4 Jan 1951 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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• Residence: 1 Jan 2000, Willowick, Lake, OH, USA.
• Residence: 15 Apr 2015.
Parents
Father: Frank Tomsic 5,6
Mother: Jean Bernard
Spouses and Children
1. *Debra Ellen James
Marriage: 1978
Children:
1. Alan Tomsic
2. Mark Tomsic
3. Jeffrey Tomsic
4. Gregg Tomsic
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Per Gary Tomsic, via email - March 4-31, 2015 - My birthday is Jan 4, 1951. My wife's name is Debra and we been married since 1978. I never left this area. I lived and worked in and around Cleveland my whole life. My kids are all grown now and they all live in the area.
My wife's from around the area too. She was actually born in Wash D.C. but raised in the Cleveland area. My sons are Alan 42, Mark 40, Jeffrey 32, and Gregg 30 (yes two G's). Only one grandson Nick. He's 10 now and he's Mark's son. Jeff was just married last year.
In Feb 2015 email - time since we last saw each other - 60 years since I was age 4. I'm doing fine. I retired a couple years ago after 20 years at the post office as a mailman. My four boys are all grown now and doing fine. One just got married this summer. I live in Willowick OH which is just east of the city. Been here about 30 yrs.
per Gary T - May 1, 2015 - My mother's maiden name was Bernard. Her family was from Slovenia too. She was actually born Virginia Helen Bernard but she preferred to be called Jean. There's very few documents in which she's referred to as Virginia. My wife's maiden name is James and she was born May 23, 1951. We're almost the same age. Her mother is from Cleveland but was living and working in Wash. D.C. when she was born and they moved back here when she was still a baby. So she was raised here in the Cleveland area too.
When I was small we lived in Cleveland but in three different places in the same neighborhood off of St. Clair Ave. The first five years was on E. 67th St. north of St. Clair (about two blocks away from Azman's store). We then moved to a street off of E. 79th called Kosciuszko (try spelling that for your teacher when your're in the 1st grade). We lived there 10 Years then moved about 3 streets over to Bellevue Ave. where we stayed for about 3 years and that was it. By then I was about 18 and the family all went our separate ways. In only about 2 years my father died, my brother went into the army, my mother moved to the west side and I went off on my own.
As far as schools, they were all in that same neighborhood. Elementary school was only one street over from Kosciuszko. It was called Sowinski Elementary (that was the name of the street it was on). Middle school was called Addison Jr. high and the high school was East High in Cleveland.
Gregg Tomsic
Sex: M
Individual Information
Birth: 1984 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio United States
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Father: Gary Tomsic
Mother: Debra Ellen James
Gregory William Tomsic
Sex: M
AKA: Greg
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Birth: 29 Apr 1948 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH, USA 38
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• First Communion: 24 Jun 1956, Our Lady Of Perpetual Help, Catholic Church.
• Residence: 1960, 17916 Schenely Ave, Holy Cross, Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH, USA.
• Post Separation & Divorce Home: 1 Oct 2015, St Augustine, Florida.
Parents
Father: William Frank Tomsic
Mother: Helen Agnes Pecjak
Spouses and Children
1. *Melinda Lee Swezey
Marriage: 20 Jun 1971 - 31 N. 7Th Street, Lafayette, Tippecanoe, IN, USA
Children:
1. Katherine Sue Tomsic
2. Jeffrey John Tomsic
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Jakob Tomsic
Sex: M
AKA: Jack Tomsic
Individual Information
Birth: 24 Jul 1897 - Zuzemberk, Hinje, Vrh, Zuzemberk, Slovenia
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Death: 14 Sep 1931 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Parents
Father: Jožef Tomšic 8
Mother: Marjeta Škufca 8
Spouses and Children
1. *Frances Vidrich
Marriage: 1925 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
Children:
1. Lillian Tomsic
2. Antoinette Tomsic
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2 daughters, Lillian and Violet. per Bill Azman Jr. in interview 02/19/2007
Drowned in Lake Erie boating accident, est 1931.
Sister Jennie lived in Colorado -- married a Zaler (Zeller?). per Bill Azman Jr. in interview 07/01/2011 as amended Mar 2014 to correct sister. Thought Mary lived in CO.
Jakob aka Jack Tomsic, Birth 24 July 1897 in Hinje, Austria/Jugoslavia/Slovenia, Death 14 Sep 1931 in Gordon Park, Cleveland, Ohio
Janet Jo Tomsic
Sex: F
AKA: Janet Jo
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Birth: 24 Mar 1946 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH, USA
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Father: William Frank Tomsic
Mother: Helen Agnes Pecjak
Spouses and Children
1. *Kenneth Patriarco
Marriage: 2 Sep 1988 - Euclid, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
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Our anniversary is: 09/02/1988 Ken's birthday is: 06/12/1943Marriage Notes (Kenneth Patriarco)
Ken's parents: Anthony S. Patriarco (01/15/1909-06/19/2001) and Caroline (Palumbo) Patriarco(12/27/1913-02/07/1964).....interesting that his Mother was born 2 days after Christmas and our Mother 2 days before.
Married at Holy Cross Catholic Church in Euclid, OH
Bride and groom introduced at Ken's class reunion by Janet's nurse friend and his high school classmate, Kathy (Henderson) Myers.
Jeffrey Tomsic
Sex: M
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Birth: 1982 - Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio United States
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Father: Gary Tomsic
Mother: Debra Ellen James
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Gary Tomsic's son, Willowick, OH - one of four (4)
Jeffrey John Tomsic
Sex: M
AKA: Jeff
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Birth: 26 Oct 1976 - Alexian Brothers Hospital
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Father: Gregory William Tomsic 38
Mother: Melinda Lee Swezey
Spouses and Children
1. *Jessica Lacher
Marriage: 2 Jun 2012 - New York City, Brooklyn, NY, USA
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Marriage Notes (Jessica Lacher)
t.b.d. Brooklyn Saturday, June 2, 2012 @ 6 PM
t.b.d. Brooklyn 224 Franklin Street Brooklyn, NY 11222